Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. - 1 John 4:1
About a year ago I got into an interesting discussion with a brother over whether Joel Osteen was a heretic or not. This conversation came hot on the heels of his comments concerning Mormonism. He was being interviewed by Chris Wallace from Fox News when he was asked the question, "Is a Mormon a true Christian." Joel's response was, and I quote, "Well, in my mind they are. Mitt Romeny has said that he believes in Christ as his savior and that's what I believe so I'm not the one to judge the little details of it so I believe they are."
The brother I was talking to was adamantly calling Joel Osteen a heretic of the highest order. I asked him what actions had Joel undertaken to earn this label of "heretic". He responded with shock and dismay that I would even ask such a question. Clearly Joel was a heretic because his comments on Mormonism contradicted those of the clearly taught Word of God.
I asked him to define the word "heretic" for me. His definition, I am sure, is the same definition that many people have for this word. To most Bible-believing, church attending, evangelical, fundamentalist Christians a heretic is anyone who wrongly divides the Word of God and preaches something in error. In other words, every time someone stands behind the pulpit of any church in the world, they'd better have their doctrine and theology right or else they'll be branded a heretic.
Now, I don't disagree with the need for preachers to know their stuff; obviously that is a vital component of Bible preaching. But, if someone preaches or says in an interview something that doesn't jive with our understanding of scriptures does that automatically make them a "heretic"? To many church going Christians, the answer to that question is an overwhelming "YES!"
This line of reasoning is one of the foundational reasons for the division in our churches. I can remember the series of sermons preached by my pastors lining out all of the doctrinal differences between all of the "Christian" denominations and why everyone else was wrong except our particular brand of Christianity. I'm sure those same sermons were preached in other denominational churches branding our group as heretics too.
To listen to most church attendees, there are a lot of heretics running around this globe spreading their lies and half-truths and bringing ruin to the Body of Christ. I submit to you that the real cause of the division isn't due to all of these so-called heretics, like Mr. Osteen, but rather, and many people won't like this statement, the chief cause of the division in the church is the ungodly attitudes and scriptural ignorance of most church attendees...including pastors.
Allow me to define the word "heretic" for you. The word appears one time in the KJV in Titus 3:10 and is spelled "heretick". It comes from the greek word hairetikos and it means: schismatic, factious, a follower of a false doctrine.
Now, there are two words in that definition that we don't use anymore; "schismatic" and "factious". Both of these words mean essentially the same thing; divisive. The understanding of this Greek word was that a heretic was someone who knowingly and intentionally manipulated people as well as the scriptures in order to bring division and chaos to a (supposedly) unified body of believers. This speaks not only of the actions of the individual in question but also his motives. That is why we are instructed to "try the spirits" of the speaker in question rather than try them intellectually or even doctrinally. After all, what if your understanding of doctrine isn't flawless?
We live in an age of literally tens of thousands of denominations all claiming to believe in the same God and all reading from the same book. We are divided on so many levels that it is impossible to list them all. I've been to churches where the congregation was divided up in social cliques and the warfare between these factions (someone who creates factions would be called "factious" by the way) was obvious. What I am saying is there is much more to being a heretic than what most people are aware of.
I do not believe Joel Osteen to be a heretic. I don't see him as a harbinger of deceit and division in the body of Christ. What I do see is a young minister who doesn't have all the answers who is caught up in the wind of his growing ministerial fame and who is adept at playing the political games that have infiltrated far too many of our churches. None of these flaws make him a "heretic"...they make him human. And as a human being Joel Osteen, like the rest of us, is subject to making mistakes.
His comments on Mormonism were wrong, plain and simple. Mormon doctrines are not the same as the doctrines of Jesus Christ. You don't have to be a theologian to see that; just read their book. Joel's comments displayed his ignorance of Mormonism's teachings but they don't make him a schismatic, factious follower of false doctrines. Now, if Joel got into his pulpit one Sunday and began teaching the doctrines of Joseph Smith then he would be guilty of heresy. Making mistaken or ignorant statements is regrettable and can cause some confusion and damage but how much more damage has been done by some of the brethren who rush to judgment based on little study, even less prayer and no godly wisdom. How much division has been caused by the ignorant and judgmental among us?
Are there false prophets and heretics among us? Absolutely. How does one discern who is a heretic and who is simply mistaken? 1 John 4:1 gives us some instruction on this. We need wise men and women of God who understand the principles of "trying the spirits" instead of self-taught armchair theologians who have just enough Bible knowledge to be dangerous. Most of all, we must be careful who we play the heretic card on. I know I've made mistakes and preached things out of ignorance that I later found to be untrue. That is part of the process of growing up in Christ; we all make mistakes.
Making mistakes doesn't make any of us heretics; it just makes us wrong. People who are in error don't need snap judgments and ostracizing labels. They need loving correction. Joel Osteen, by his profession of faith, is a brother of mine. If I hear him say something in error my first response is to pray for him to receive some loving correction. That's what we all need and I am thankful that we have a God who is the master of lovingly correcting us...
...because we all make mistakes.
Friday, October 3, 2008
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3 comments:
Your show tonight was very good! I was hanging on every word. I'm thankful that you defined the "heretic" because I have heard it misused a lot myself!
I would like to comment on Joel's answer about Mormonism. He didn't agree with it's teachings. He keyed in on one thing. Jesus Christ. If Mr. Romney says he believes Jesus Christ as his Savior, then I am not one to judge his statement. I think that's what Joel was doing. He wasn't judging someones heart. He obeyed God in this and was skewered by "Christians" who like to judge. (:-)
Thanks again for the show!
Is it possible that Joel may be preaching a wrong Jesus and in essence a wrong gospel?
For instance, he did not want to acknowledge that Christ was the only way of salvation on the infamous Larry King interview and then he goes on a later show and claims that Mormons worship the same Jesus. Do these statements possibly suggest that Joel perhaps does not know the Biblical Jesus?
Paul told the Galatians that he who preaches another gospel be eternally condemned. Paul's emphasis on getting the gospel right should sober us in our studies and preaching of the Biblical gospel.
Also, a heretic can be known by what he doesn't say. Christ said that if we are ashamed of him before men, He will be ashamed of us before our Father...ironically, this is a verse that Joel quotes at the end of every sermon.
Howdy Rich,
Thank you so much for your comments. I understand what you are saying and agree that Joel's comments on national television in both the Larry King interview and the Chris Wallace interview were disappointing to anyone who knows their Bible.
My question is, does Joel's statement concerning Mormons being Christians and his failure to take a firm stand for the gospel of Christ in a public forum make him a heretic or a young minister with much to learn?
I see Brother Joel as the latter. I do not pretend to know everything about the man as I do not know him personally nor have I ever spoken with him. My purpose in bringing this discussion to the table is to spotlight a common problem I see within the body of Christ that desperately needs to be exorcised; namely knee-jerk judgmentalism.
I could write a book on the subject here but instead I'll simply state that we evangelical fundamentalists (generally speaking) are notorious about eating our own whenever we perceive doctrinal or character flaws. Brother Osteen is a human being and therefore has both...as do we all.
He is absolutely wrong about Mormons being Christians. His statements about them do not make him a heretic, they make him wrong. He should have answered Larry King's question with a "Yes and Amen" but he didn't. I presume he was playing the seeker-sensitive, politically correct games that pastors of large churches tend to play in order to keep the money (err, I mean church members) rolling in. Again, I don't know Brother Joel so that is pure speculation on my part; speculation based on countless experiences with many such pastors, mind you, but speculation nonetheless.
Long story short, the summary on the blog as well as the radio show last Saturday is where I come out on this. We need to be wise in our judgments of one another. By "wise" I mean godly wisdom, not man's. I've seen far too many babies thrown out with the bathwater over the years in the name of doctrinal purity or denominational distinctives. THAT is the main reason I brought this topic up.
Joel is a young minister with much to learn. Instead of God's people throwing labels and stones at him for his mistakes, we should be praying for him to receive some loving correction.
Now, if Joel begins preaching the doctrines of Joseph Smith or attempts to bring universal ecuminicalism into his sermons then the heretic card needs to be played.
But, for a young minister on the national stage to answer questions ignorantly (by his own admission) or with PC-speak is, again, disappointing and should be a sign to those mentors and ministers that he may have around him to take some action in developing and discipling him further.
I know I've made many public mistakes as a minister and I am thankful for those whom God sent to me with love and correction instead of labels and judgment. That is what this young many needs. Save the heretic card for those who deserve it. There are plenty of them on TBN and Daystar to choose from.
Again, thank you for your comment and God bless you for your knowledge and zeal for his Word.
Pastor Chris
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